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proverb A proverb (from la, proverbium) is a simple and insightful, traditional saying that expresses a perceived truth based on common sense or experience. Proverbs are often metaphorical and use formulaic language. A proverbial phrase or a proverbia ...
, first credited to
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, who in his ''
Sententiae ''Sententiae'', the nominative plural of the Latin word ''sententia'', are brief moral sayings, such as proverbs, adages, aphorisms, maxims, or apophthegms taken from ancient or popular or other sources, often quoted without context. ''Sententia' ...
'' states, "''People who are always moving, with no roots in one place or another, avoid responsibilities and cares.''" The phrase spawned a shorter mossless offshoot image, that of the ''rolling stone'', and modern moral meanings have diverged, from similar themes such as used in the popular song "
Papa Was a Rollin' Stone "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone" is a song originally performed by Motown recording act The Undisputed Truth in 1972, though it became much better known after a Grammy-award winning cover by The Temptations was issued later the same year. This la ...
", to a more complementary commentary on "freedom" from excessive rootedness, such as in the band
The Rolling Stones The Rolling Stones are an English Rock music, rock band formed in London in 1962. Active for six decades, they are one of the most popular and enduring bands of the album era, rock era. In the early 1960s, the Rolling Stones pioneered the g ...
.


Correct attribution

The saying may not be authentic to Publilius Syrus, as the
Latin Latin (, or , ) is a classical language belonging to the Italic branch of the Indo-European languages. Latin was originally a dialect spoken in the lower Tiber area (then known as Latium) around present-day Rome, but through the power of the ...
form usually given, ''Saxum volutum non obducitur musco'', does not appear in his edited texts. It is first documented in Egbert of Liège collection in Latin "Fecunda Ratis" (The Well-Laden Ship), V. 182, of about 1023: "Assidue non saxa legunt volventia muscum." So the proverb was not invented but made popular 500 years later by Erasmus' ''
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'', first published in England around 1500. He gave it in Greek and in Latin. It is also given as "Musco lapis volutus haud obducitur", and in some cases as "Musco lapis volutus haud ''obvolvitur''".


Historical use

The conventional English translation first appeared in
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's collection of ''Proverbs'' in 1546, crediting Erasmus. ''
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'' also credits
Erasmus Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus (; ; English: Erasmus of Rotterdam or Erasmus;''Erasmus'' was his baptismal name, given after St. Erasmus of Formiae. ''Desiderius'' was an adopted additional name, which he used from 1496. The ''Roterodamus'' w ...
, and relates it to other Latin proverbs, ''Planta quae saepius transfertus non coalescit'' or ''Saepius plantata arbor fructum profert exiguum'', which mean that a frequently replanted plant or tree yields less fruit than say an olive or oak tree that is left in place for hundreds of years. By the 19th century, the theme of "rootlessness having negative consequences" was still much in place. To quote the 1825 Dictionary of Scots Language: "Any gentleman, whether possessing property or not, who was popular, and ready to assist the poor in their difficulties, might expect a day in the moss, as they were wont to term it, and could have them longer for payment." At the time, "A day in the moss" referred to cutting peat in bogs (made of consolidated sphagnum moss). referring to hard work in preparation for winter. An itinerant "rolling stone" will not likely feel the timely need to "gather moss", by applying for access to a community's peat bog.


20th century


In literature

The phrase was popular in England in the early 20th century. In ''
Swallows and Amazons ''Swallows and Amazons'' is a children's adventure novel by English author Arthur Ransome and first published on 21 July 1930 by Jonathan Cape. Set in the summer of 1929 in the Lake District, the book introduces the main characters of John, S ...
'', published in 1930 by the English children's author Arthur Ransome, the theft and eventual return of "Captain Flint's" memoirs ''Mixed Moss by A Rolling Stone'', forms an important narrative in the story. By the 1940s, in ''
The Return of the King ''The Return of the King'' is the third and final volume of J. R. R. Tolkien's ''The Lord of the Rings'', following '' The Fellowship of the Ring'' and '' The Two Towers''. It was published in 1955. The story begins in the kingdom of Gondor, ...
'' by J.R.R. Tolkien, Gandalf tells the hobbits that Tom Bombadil “...is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling. But my rolling days are ending, and now we shall have much to say to one another.” Though the two are both ancient figures, Gandalf has remained involved throughout history, until here where his story is beginning to recede from the realms of men. In ''
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'', a 1952 novel by science fiction author
Robert A. Heinlein Robert Anson Heinlein (; July 7, 1907 – May 8, 1988) was an American science fiction author, aeronautical engineer, and naval officer. Sometimes called the "dean of science fiction writers", he was among the first to emphasize scientific accu ...
, a family travels throughout the Solar System looking for adventure and money. Hazel Stone, the grandmother, justifies the initiation of their rootless existence saying: "this city life is getting us covered with moss", when they buy their ship, with the theme carrying throughout the book.


In music

Union activist Joe Hill's last will, written in the form of a song in 1915, states: "My kin don't need to fuss and moan / Moss does not cling to rolling stone." Hank Williams's " Lost Highway" opened with the line "I'm a rolling stone/All alone and lost", inspiring later songs to use the ''rolling stone'' metaphor, many of which dropped the reference to moss. " Rollin' Stone" is a 1950 song recorded by blues legend Muddy Waters, which inspired the band name
The Rolling Stones The Rolling Stones are an English Rock music, rock band formed in London in 1962. Active for six decades, they are one of the most popular and enduring bands of the album era, rock era. In the early 1960s, the Rolling Stones pioneered the g ...
, and the 1965 song "
Like a Rolling Stone "Like a Rolling Stone" is a song by American singer-songwriter Bob Dylan, released on July 20, 1965, by Columbia Records. Its confrontational lyrics originated in an extended piece of verse Dylan wrote in June 1965, when he returned exhausted fro ...
" by
Bob Dylan Bob Dylan (legally Robert Dylan, born Robert Allen Zimmerman, May 24, 1941) is an American singer-songwriter. Often regarded as one of the greatest songwriters of all time, Dylan has been a major figure in popular culture during a career sp ...
, which in turn inspired the magazine ''
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''. The Temptations released the song "
Papa Was a Rollin' Stone "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone" is a song originally performed by Motown recording act The Undisputed Truth in 1972, though it became much better known after a Grammy-award winning cover by The Temptations was issued later the same year. This la ...
" in 1971.
Don McLean Donald McLean III (born October 2, 1945) is an American singer-songwriter and guitarist. He is best known for his 1971 hit song " American Pie", an eight-and-a-half-minute folk rock "cultural touchstone" about the loss of innocence of the early ...
's 1970s " American Pie" reprised a reference to moss, with "Now for ten years we've been on our own / And moss grows fat on a rollin' stone". " Flames", a song by ZAYN,
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and Jungleboi contains the line "'Cause I'm a rolling stone / And I keep rolling on".


In psychiatry

Because it is so well known, this saying is one of the most common proverbs used in psychological tests for mental illness. American psychiatric research conducted in the 1950s between control groups of healthy Air Force personnel against hospitalized Veterans Administration patients with
schizophrenia Schizophrenia is a mental disorder characterized by continuous or relapsing episodes of psychosis. Major symptoms include hallucinations (typically hearing voices), delusions, and disorganized thinking. Other symptoms include social wit ...
found that the lack of abstraction ability was statistically higher in the VA patients. This led researchers to believe that persons with mental illness were only capable of "concrete" thinking, or interpreting metaphorical or abstract concepts literally, often simply restating the proverb in different words.
Ken Kesey Ken Elton Kesey (September 17, 1935 – November 10, 2001) was an American novelist, essayist and countercultural figure. He considered himself a link between the Beat Generation of the 1950s and the hippies of the 1960s. Kesey was born in ...
, who had participated in Air Force mental health studies using
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, derided what he felt were the simplistic conclusions of these psychiatrists in his book '' One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'', in a scene where a psychologist asks McMurphy what he thinks the proverb means. After an initial smart-aleck response, McMurphy says he guesses it means, "It's hard for something to grow on something that's moving." McMurphy is forced to submit to a
lobotomy A lobotomy, or leucotomy, is a form of neurosurgical treatment for psychiatric disorder or neurological disorder (e.g. epilepsy) that involves severing connections in the brain's prefrontal cortex. The surgery causes most of the connections t ...
at the end of the story, partially "justified" by the perceived "pathology" indicated by his "concrete" response. The research results have, in practice, often been improperly generalized to suggest a lack of metaphorical understanding of proverbs alone can be an indicator of mental illness.


In film and TV

The 1975 film '' One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'' included the book's scene with McMurphy ridiculing the psychologist. In 2005 the television show '' MythBusters'' rolled a stone constantly for six months, and did not measure any moss growth during that time. One of the limousines says the proverb in the last scene of Leos Carax's ''
Holy Motors ''Holy Motors'' is a 2012 fantasy drama film written and directed by Leos Carax and starring Denis Lavant and Édith Scob. Lavant plays Mr. Oscar, a man who appears to have a job as an actor, as he is seen dressing up in different costumes and pe ...
'' (2012).


In comics

A gag of George Herriman's '' Krazy Kat'' has Krazy run behind a rolling stone on Ignatz Mouse's account, to literally see whether "it gathers any moss?"


See also

* Chien de Jean de Nivelle * Fortune favours the bold * It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings


References

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